Thursday, October 15, 2009

CQ100 Voip Ham Radio

Is this still ham radio? Yes and no. Yes, when you can have contacts with other hams all over the world, it's in a way ham radio, only by Internet. You can use phone, CW and PSK31. No problems with the lack of sunspots, or other bad propagations. You like to chat with fellow hams, then try CQ100. No, when you think radio should be only wireless transmission. You probably considered this as fake ham radio. You didn't have your license for chit chat on the Internet, do you? Read more >>>
Though, I am a bit curious. There is a free trial for 3 months, but then you have to pay 32$. What do you think about it?

19 comments:

  1. No and no!. We comment to one another here and elsewhere, but realize that blogs/forums/websites/personal pages are not amateur radio. I don't care if they paid ME to use it.

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  2. SMS, MMS, Skype, MSN, ICQ, VOIP.....en CQ100.
    Zo denk ik er over. 73 Bas

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  3. Hello Dick: you are perfectly clear. We don't need to redefine the term ham radio. 73, Paul

    Hallo Bas: ja, dat heb je helemaal gelijk in. Ook al wordt er alleen toegang verleend aan radio-amateurs. 73, Paul

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  4. This is not ham radio and I'm horrified that the ARRL is helping to publicize it. It offers nothing that Skype can't do, except an interface that looks like a radio. Even EchoLink is at least intended to be accessed by radio, even though you can use it to chat computer-to-computer.

    I think the term radio is becoming horribly debased. For example, I listen to the classical music station WCPE via "internet radio". It's not radio. But it probably doesn't matter to most listeners, as it doesn't to me, because it is the content that is important not the medium used for reception.

    But if the powers that be get wind of the idea that radio amateurs can pursue their hobby using VoIP, how does that help support the case for retaining the use of valuable radio frequencies?

    What do people who use CQ100 talk about anyway? Do they exchange details of their computers or send readability 4 reports because there is packet loss on the audio?

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  5. Hello Julian, I think it is nothing more then Skype. It would be the end of ham radio in the future if we went to the Internet. It will be the end of QRP too. No, I like the noise on bands, to pick up signal with 5 watts from the noise, make a qso, inclusive qsb and qrm. I will miss the opening of a amateur band. Searching for a signal. A friend of mine said once: you make it yourself so difficult, why don't you take Skype, you can talk all over the world. I'm afraid he don't understand. 73, Paul

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  6. Hello Paul
    This is an interesting one, in fact I was thinking of posting about it on my blog! Its not radio there is no doubt about it. Most of the users are sitting at their PCs, but there are a few who are linking it to repeaters.However it has a nice interface and I think many are using it when they cannot use the radio perhaps they live where antennas are forbidden, or maybe they are away from home and using a laptop. I think its a nice idea for cases like that. If we just treat it as a bit of fun and a nice way to chat that surely thats fine. But radio it is not! If you look at the CQ100 forum there are people there who want to have CQ100 contests and awards, I think that just plain silly!
    73 De Kevin

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  7. Hello Kevin, It is not ham radio in a way of wireless communication. It is something like Skype. Computers are important in ham radio nowadays, such as WSPR. If there is a QSO possibility with WSPR that would be fine. No, I don't mean WSJT. The only advantage of CQ100 is to communicate only with licensed ham operators. People with the same interest. It could be complementary, instead of replacement of wireless communication. e.g. I have a sked with someone on 40 meter. The qso can't be done because of poor propagation. Then we speak further with CQ100. Something like that. 73, Paul

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  8. It's been said to me that it's an option for people in situations where antennas are forbidden. But it seems to be that if you take the radio out of amateur radio there is nothing left. Ham radio is about building and experimenting with radio equipment, it's about making and experimenting with antennas, and most of all it's about learning about propagation and making use of that to see where you can send your signal. CQ100 is about turning on a computer and clicking an icon, there is no knowledge or experimentation at all. It is totally without point and without accomplishment.

    I would also challenge the negativity that creates the idea that if you aren't allowed antennas you can't play with radio. I've been plying radio without any outside antennas for years. Even if you don't have an attic, you can buy or make a small portable magnetic loop and make some contacts. You can even load up your curtain rail and see where you are spotted on WSPR.

    You may not be able to have armchair ragchews with people half way round the world, but the Internet provides plenty of ways to do that sort of thing that doesn't involve pretending to be ham radio, and at least if you've done something using radio you'll have something interesting to talk about to the hams you meet in forums and chat rooms.

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  9. It's not my cup of tea but...

    Of course this sort of online activity isn't radio, but what about that makes it a "bad" thing? Let's say some pensioner moves to a retirement home and leaves his hobby behind. One day he gets on the Internet and strikes up with some of his old friends via the Internet.

    MY GOODNESS -- has some crime been committed?

    It simply comes down to the fact that we hams will easily strike up a conversation with a total stranger if he also happens to be a ham. It gives us common ground when we talk a certain way (CQ, QSL, 73, etc.) and the same is not true when striking up a conversation with a perfect stranger.

    So hams have found a place where they can meet and chat with other hams online. Would they prefer to have a 1500W setup with a 100 foot tower and beam? Of course! But lacking that, where is the harm in chatting in this manner?

    Let me ask you -- have you ever attended a hamfest and sit around a table enjoying coffee and casual conversation with fellow ham radio enthusiasts? What -- you have? How dare you -- THAT'S NOT REAL RADIO!!! The true ham should ignore any sort of communication with another ham unless it comes via RF.

    This bit of silliness seems to be at the core of your argument...

    73 de Jeff, KE9V

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  10. Jeff, there are plenty of ways that "some pensioner who has moved to a retirement home" can engage in conversations with other hams via the internet without indulging in a charade of pretending they are using a radio on the air. That's what I consider to be a bit of silliness.

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  11. I agree with the last comment of G4ILO.

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  12. See http://www.cqhq.co.uk for my take on the subject. I had forgotten until I read it here that it is a pay for service stuff that and call me on Skype it's free.

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  13. Steve Silverman10/17/2009

    My reverse definition of ham radio: If you aren't radiating/receiving RF from your antenna on a legal ham band using a legal mode, it isn't ham radio!

    Steve KB3SII

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  14. Skype in another box....and silly!

    NOT radio...

    NOT my cup of tea!

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  15. ola amigos sou do brasil meu indicativo pu2swr gostaria de saber se vc
    oces conhecem outro radio virtual igual do CQ100 POIS VOCES SABERIA O LINK MEU EMAIL E

    FRANCISBIOSFERA@HOTMAIL.COM

    TKS ATE MAIS

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  16. Anonymous11/14/2010

    This is RIDICULOUS! I could see if it was LINKED to RF somewhere like Echolink is, but to be a "IP band" only medium with artificial bands, etc is a joke, and makes a mockery of Amateur RADIO. This is NOT RADIO! The ARRL should be ashamed of backing this garbage.

    It's NOT RADIO!

    It only serves to devalue radio, and confuse newer hams.

    It's NOT RADIO!!!

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  17. WA3YAY2/05/2011

    Not a question about it. Not radio. Fun? Maybe. Interesting? Could be. Worthwhile? Whatever floats your boat.

    If we called it Ham VOIP, I could live with that. But it can't be called Ham Radio, since, well, where's the radio?

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  18. Anonymous3/04/2012

    The activities of amateur radio as well as a hobby is that amateur radio service lends his nation by making available to the authorities, the own radio station if necessary. If by chance should come, for example an earthquake, (quite frequently here in Italy) with the lines of the telephone inoperable, the cells of the cellular phone out of service, fiber optic data transmission interrupted etc.. Can you tell me what the hell I can provide emergency service radio system with voip?. I hope that amateurs all over the world to take conscience of this and not give up "NEVER" this wonderful feeling of being autonomous and independent to be of help to those who really need it. below and bring at least one handheld, battery allowing it, ALWAYS work, and it will really help, not as the voip cabbage! HI! 73 de IZ3SLX

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    1. @IZ3SLX: I totally agree with you, 73 Paul

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